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Things That Matter: The Use and Abuse of Power in the Church

by Brian Brodersen

Season 4 - Episode 8 Audio only


To close this season of “Things That Matter,” host Pastor Brian Brodersen interviews Kyle Strobel, professor at Talbot Seminary and coauthor of the book, “The Way of the Dragon or the Way of the Lamb: Searching for Jesus' Path of Power in a Church that Has Abandoned It.” Kyle and Brian discuss insight from great preachers and theologians, such as Jonathon Edwards, J.I. Packer and more! Kyle also defines spiritual formation and examines the corruption of power in the church, as he shares, “You can’t hide biblical power. People will find it.” Thank you for all your support and feedback as we seek to present a platform to discuss “Things That Matter” in today’s environment and culture. We look forward to season five in the New Year!


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Brian Brodersen

Brian Brodersen is the senior pastor of Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa, CA, president of Calvary Chapel Bible College and featured speaker on “Back to Basics” radio program.