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In this bonus episode of the Leadership Collective, we are sharing a recent episode from our partners at the When She Leads podcast:

In this episode of the When She Leads podcast, Brenda Leavenworth is joined by Jen Bursch (Calvary Murrieta), Annie Harley (Calvary Fort Lauderdale), and Shirley Ruiz (Reliance Church) in a candid conversation about the necessity and value of the presence of women at the table of church leadership. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.


When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.

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​Rob Salvato is the lead pastor at Calvary Vista in CA. He is married to his wife, Denise, and they have three grown children.